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  • 1.  Re: IEC/AAMI/ANSI 60601-1

    Posted 12/09/20 09:55 AM
    I find your question very interesting and this is related to something that I have been developing for 20 years called the Potenciar Model; This model considers the need to manage problems, risks and crises in a constant cycle of 10 phases in time; since the concept of risk normally understood as the combination of probability and gravity is not enough and has a great deficiency which is that the generating systems change over time; Furthermore, the concept of risk must incorporate the concepts of denials and early signals, which may vary over time due to the combination of generating systems; For this reason and from this point of view, the use of these formulas may perhaps be insufficient .... I think it is important to continue discussing this topic. One of the opportunities for improvement I see is that risk matrices should not be limited or exclusively managed with formulas.


    Gerardo Andres Moreno Yepez


  • 2.  RE: Re: IEC/AAMI/ANSI 60601-1

    Posted 09/09/20 12:24 PM
    2013 ANSI/AAMI ES60601-1:2005 & A1:2012 “Medical Electrical Equipment, Oxygen-Rich Environment,” sub-clause 11.2.2.1 b) 3) says,
    “The cause of the hazardous situation is: a leak occurs and is not detected, some time later an electrical failure occurs that starts an ignition. The time interval tc for checking the seals can be calculated as follows: 
    tc = r/(0.5*pe*po) where r is "acceptable" risk of fire, pe is spark rate, and po is oxygen leak rate

    Formula is wrong. Correct is tc = r/((po/(po+pe))*pe*po) assuming independence and constant failure rates. I notified the relevant IEC committee representatives and submitted an article to QP. ASQ RD Newsletter published a version. I have never heard back from IEC and still don't know if they've fixed it. The correction is an oversimplification.
    It doesn’t account for the occurrences before inspection time tc. Both those tc formulas result in too long inspection times. 

    If you want more info on RBI, inspection time, and fire safety, let me know. RBI standards contain very detailed corrosion guidance, but I have not seen inspection time recommendations for possible fuel and ignition inspection times.